Comments on: Ultimate Programming Showdown, ColdFusion vs All!

By: cfguy

cfguy — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 09:12:25 +0000

Coming back to the game above,
I think an average cf coder can beat all others, bcos its enough and more…Thats the POWER OF CF

By: Lu Sancea

Lu Sancea — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:35:39 +0000

Well, the idea was to pin language against language not framework vs framework. True that everyone uses some kind of framework, whether homegrown or downloaded, but how do you judge the language at that point? Wouldn’t we just be judging the frameworks?

By: Sean Corfield

Sean Corfield — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 23:33:33 +0000

I agree with Neil Middleton: you can’t ban frameworks because people build websites with frameworks – that’s where the productivity comes from. I’m not going to try building a website with CFML without Model-Glue and ColdSpring (and maybe Transfer) – that’s just silly.

Also, whilst CFML is, technically, ColdFusion Markup Language, the CFML engines provide language+framework out of the box – even based on what the CFML Advisory Committee view as core, that contains “framework” features that you can’t realistically omit from competing “languages”.

You can’t cast this as a “language battle” when you’re really looking at productivity for building websites. And if you cast that as a “web application development battle” and allow full stack languages/frameworks then you’re going to find Groovy/Grails and Ruby/Rails are extremely RAD because they’ve been designed from the ground up to make web application development faster.

By: ColdFusion Developers - Please learn something new | :neil_middleton

ColdFusion Developers - Please learn something new | :neil_middleton — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:37:04 +0000

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By: Lu Sancea

Lu Sancea — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:24:22 +0000

I was thinking of more of a language battle not a framework battle